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brindlehounds
Posted: Nov 1, 2004 at 8:08 PM - brindlehounds's 55th post Copy Link
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I notice our Betty has been drawing the 6 and 7 box recently.

How is the box determined? Is it a totally random draw?

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rockingship
Posted: Nov 5, 2004 at 8:49 PM - rockingship's 51st post Copy Link
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Yes Angela.....the racing secretary has a shaker with numbered "die-like" things in it.....there is a slot that the numbers fakll into when the shaker is turned upside down, so that the numbers are stacked vertically. He also has a list of the dogs by grade and turn-to-race, which are randomly placed into 8 dog allotments for races. The shaker is shaken and tunred over, and the numbers, as they stack up, are assigned to the dogs in the order thay have been listed. It is entirely on the up and up, and in MA, a liscensed owner or trainer must witness the draw.

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brindlehounds
Posted: Nov 7, 2004 at 9:08 PM - brindlehounds's 67th post Copy Link
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Thanks Rock!

I see Betty's had a change of luck with the shaker and has drawn the 2 box this Wednesday.

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jcsperson
Posted: Nov 10, 2004 at 6:50 PM - jcsperson's 23rd post Copy Link
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Looks like it worked!!

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Aushegun
Posted: Jul 8, 2005 at 10:51 AM - Aushegun's 6th post Copy Link
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Actually, now days, most tracks have a computer that RANDOMLY determines the post positions for each dog. But for stakes races, many times the traditional "pill bottle" is still used.


"I wonder if other dogs think poodles are members of a weird religious cult." - Rita Rudner

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jcsperson
Posted: Jul 8, 2005 at 12:46 PM - jcsperson's 130th post Copy Link
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I kind of like the way the Brits do it for stakes races. They put the rail dogs in the inside boxes and the wide dogs in the outside boxes and the midtrackers in the middle.

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rockingship
Posted: Jul 11, 2005 at 10:45 PM - rockingship's 218th post Copy Link
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Yes...outside seeding is long overdue here.

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brindlehounds
Posted: Jul 12, 2005 at 6:32 AM - brindlehounds's 437th post Copy Link
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Thanks, I didn't know this. I guess the thinking is to make for an exciting stakes race with the best of the best running from their optimal position on the track, without 'luck of the draw' becoming an influencing factor?

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jcsperson
Posted: Jul 14, 2005 at 4:47 PM - jcsperson's 134th post Copy Link
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As hard as British racing secretaries (or whatever they call them over there) try to "seed" the dogs into the appropriate box, there is always a trainer who still feels that person is trying to put his dog at a disadvantage. At least the random draw method leaves no one to blame.

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